How do u take postinor-2?According to,
1)Manufacturer leaflet: one Postinor-2 within 72 hours following intercourse and another 12 hours after taking the first pill.
2) Martindale reference: levonorgestrel may be given alone by mouth in a single dose of 1.5 mg (2 tablets) within 72 hours of coitus (preferably as soon as possible).Alternatively, a dose of 750 micrograms (1 tablet) is given within 72 hours of coitus (preferably as soon as possible), and repeated after 12 hours.
3) BNF 53rd Ed Sept 2007: 1.5mg as a single dose as soon as possible (preferably within 12hours but no later than after 72 hours.
Ask the Pharmacist
Due to popular search, I have decided to answer most of the questions posted by my reader here1) I would advise them to take as single dose, ie 2 tab at once as soon as possible for increased compliance and to follow the latest advise from British National Formulary. Actually the pills can be taken up to 120 hours after sex, without regard to menstrual cycle, but the efficay reduced as the time pass. The pregnancy rate if taken after one day is 0.4%, 2 days is 1.2% and 3 days is 2.7%.
After u have taken the 2 pills, u may experience menstrual bleeding within one week of the expected time. If u took the pills late into the cycle, your next menses will be prolonged.
2) After u have taken postinor, if u have unprotected sex again, u may become pregnant. So u can take another 2 pills again as the max doses is 4 pills /month.
If u vomited within one hour, take a vomiting pills together with postinor again.
3) The safest unprotected sex is few days before your menses come.
Just use the other methods if u r not sure, ok? Dont understand? Use barrier. DONT UNDERSTAND? USE CONDOM lar ...hehe....
4) Consult a pharmacist if u take any anti convulsant or epileptic medicine such as phenytoin, carbamazepine, and valproic acid etc. Sorry as i wont be replying to the comments here anymore. If you have further questions, pls click like on my facebook account and message me there.
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So, this still called morning after pill? HAHA. BEFORE MORNING pills.
ASK pharmacist PHARMALOGIK.
right right right, correct correct correct.
just curious. why cant we take more than 4 tablets a month? what happens if we do?
can u take 2 dose of postinor at the same time meaning that u take 4 pill with 12 hours apart? i took i dose and nothing happen so i took the third pill 12 hours after the second pill... how to know if it's working?
Postinor-2 is used in emergencies and should not be used regularly. It's effectiveness is also not comparable with regular daily use contraceptives.
If u take more than 4 tablets, most of the time it wont be effective and it will disrupt your menstrual cycle, besides giving u its side effects.
what kind of side effects will it give if u took more than 4 tablets?
It stated that i should take within 12 hours. But i missed it. I only took it after 14 hours. Will the postinor 2 still be effective?
yin sin, it will still be effective if taken within 72 hours..just that the success rate is lesser..
how to read your blog?
I have a friend who took the the first tablet of postinor-2 and then took the second tablet only 6 hours after she took the first one instead of waiting for 12 hours before taking the second tablet. Will the postinor-2 still be effective and will she get the desired result of not getting pregnant?
your friend is right...it is better not to wait until 12 hours
see my advise?
I would advise them to take as single dose, ie 2 tab at once as soon as possible for increased compliance and to follow the latest advise from British National Formulary.
Thanks for your advice. So my friend did something right by taking the drug 6 hours after she took the first tab.
She has said that she has not seen her menses and she's getting pains around her nipples, are these side effects coming as a result of taking the tablets and does this means she will not get pregnant?
Thanks a lot...
u have to ask is it the first time she is taking postinor?
postinor is a high dose hormone pills, some side effect usually present. that is why it only be used in emergency, not on weekly basis.
pregnancy only can be confirm by doing the urine pregnancy test.
Hello,
My friend took postinor 2 about 15-20 minutes after the encounter, and as suggested, the second pill exactly 12 hrs after ( we even put alarm clock :-) ). Did all this just to be as safe as possible. She was in her first days after the menses. I don't think she risks of getting pregnant, does she ?
Postinor should work unless your friend vomited after taken it. As advised above, take 2 pills at one go. No need to wait 12 hours.
hi, last month i had unprotected intercourse and took the first tablet abt 2 hours after. however, within the 12 hour waiting period, we had an intercourse again and my husband ejaculated inside. so i took another tablet immediately (a new packet and not the 2nd tablet). 12 hours after the first intake i took the 3rd tablet. and 12 hours after the second intake i took another one.
so basically i took 4 tablets in a day. i had my period two days after. but now i am 6 days late.
may i know what is the effect of my wrongful dosage. and whether it is effective.
thank you.
It should be effective although u r taking it wrongly.
I guess your period may fluctuates becoz u had taken a very high dosage of hormones. Do not ever take 4 tablets again. It can cause serious side effects. Postinor is a very high hormone dosage medication.
Take a pregnancy test after one or two week if your period is still absent.
Hi, my name is yesica.
i had sex for the first time without protection so the next day i took postinor2 about 13 hours after.. when to the ginecologist three days after that and got all the exams... everything is ok is just that the doctor said that morning after pills are only 46% eficient.. is that true? i ask my aunt who is a doctor specialize in psicology and told me that often pills state false % to get more sales.. i think she's wrong cause that would envolve a lawsue.. but can you tell me the real % of efectiveness of postinor 2? by the way it's been 6 days since and i still haven't got my period
i didnt check but i guess it should be around 98-99% effectiveness if taken correctly. 46% is definitely wrong. Let me check and i will update here when i am free.
i took two tablets of postinor 2 8hours after sex and had unprotected sex 2 days later should i take another dose?
Yes u should
hi there,
is it possible to miss 2 months period after taking those pill?
hi there, i want to ask, last time i taking those pill about 5days from today but the period is not yet come and if follow the cycle, it should be coming today, so, can i taking the pill again?
hi dis is trini, jus wanted to kno if my las period was 2nd Jan & i've taken postinor2 three times between then and Feb 9th and have bled for 2-3days approximately 1week after taking it correctly each time it was taken, done a preg. test monday an it was negative but still haven't gotten a normal period since jan 2nd, could i still b pregnant or it dis bcuz of taking postinor2?????? how long again would it take b4 my period regulate again??????? please help, im so scared, THANKS.
trini, i think u just have to wait. only time will tell if u have pregnant or not. But if u have taken it correctly, most probably u will be safe.
Pls remember postinor is suppose to be used as emergency contraceptive, not on a regular basis.
hi, so what if it is taken before sex? Say one is taken after intercourse, and then 12 hours later, there is intercourse again. Will it still be effective against the second intercourse session or will another dosage have to be taken?
Thanks.
well i had sex with my bf on tuesday 23 like around 11:45pm and i took the pill on thursday at 1:47 pm..well the second pill i was quna take it at 1:47 am but the thing is dat i missed it because i feel asleep and like around 3:55 am i took it that same day...would it still work because i took the second pill passing the 72 hours i think..please help me with this..im barely 15 going to 16 and i dont want to be pregnant...plz help
there is nothing we can do now as u didnt take it correctly. we can just hope that u wont be pregnant.
In malaysia, i think it is illegal to have sex under 16. It is considered as rape.
to the guys, pls consider to use condom. Dont be so selfish, i notice a lot of worries among the girls here.
if you take the second pill more than 18 hrs after the first one, will it still work or should i just start the dosage again?
i had my period 3 days before i had sex with my husband which was last week dat i did it and i took the morning after pill and a week later i got my period again...does dat mean dat im not pregnant??
hello
my girlfriend an i had sex 2 month ago and she took those pills within few hours of our intercourse (within 12 hours as mentioned). still now her period is irregular and heavy. what to do now??
hi, i had sex with my bf on monday about 2pm and i only started taking postinor the next day at 8pm and the 2nd pill the following morning at 8am. its already friday now and my period stil hasnt come yet.when will it arrive?? and when can i do a pregnancy test? pls reply a.s.a.p.
do a pregnancy test 2 weeks after your expected menses if it hasn't come yet. there is nothing much u can do now.
as long as u follow the instruction correctly, u will be safe.
i did follow the instructions properly but im worried cause my period is not here yet. Whats the chances that i may be pregnant? my bf only pre-cummed in me.
Hi, Its cin and i took one pack of postinor at the beginning for the month and bleed and then i took another pack at the end of the month, is anyhting going to happen to me for taking the pills twice in one month?
i have missed ma period by 4 weeks now and i took d postinor2 d rite way.. but it was ma first time takin it shud i b worried that im pregnant, or is it possible 2 miss ma period by that much time?
using a urine pregnancy test kit will settle all your worries. this kit is widely available in the pharmacy.
as long as u dont exceed 4 pills/month, then it is ok.
Hi pharmalogik.
Here's my situation. I had sex with my bf and he came in me several times. I took my first dose within 28 hours of his first ejaculation in me. 2 hours after taking the first dose, he came in me once and that's the last intercourse we had. About 10 hours after my first dose, I took the second dose.
There's nothing I should be worried about right? I'm only abit afraid because i had sex again about 2 hours after the first dose. I hope it's still okay since it's just 2 hours.
hi CJ,
it is best for u if u can follow the instruction above strictly. Although the percentage of pregnancy maybe very low, but there is a possibility u will get pregnant.
to be on the safest side, take 2 pills asap after intercourse, and then pls use condom afterthat.
thanks lms!
Hey!! I have a problem that i think u might be able to help me with! My last period was on the 29th April and i had unprotected sex on the 17th may arnd 4 am in the morning..then on the 18th may i took my first postinor2 pill arnd 1 am then the 2nd one At 1pm.. Arnd last week on the 29th may, i had some spotting.. I tot i was going to have my period then but up until today (6.6.09) i still havent gotten my period!! Iam deeply worried!
And fyi, it is my first time taking postinor2!
Ur help and explanation is deeply appreciated :)
u can buy a urine pregnancy test to check. There is nothing much we can do to help, sorry.
hye ther,
M a second time user of postinor. Jst wondering, wil da pills be effective within 3 days after InTERcourse??
M just curious.. Hope u can help.
Thank u..
M.
I finish my menses on the 25th of may and i had unprotected sex on the 6 of June at 8:10pm and i took postinor2 at 9 :45 pm on the same day and i also took the 2nd on 9:45pm on the next day. i want to know if i will be pregnant or not because am scared.
My God, I am going crazy.
Yesterday I took Postinor-2 tablets after 17-18 hours of unprotected sex if I may call it that way.
It was not really unprotected because we used spermicides, but i got scared that the cream didn't work.
Well, i took Postinor-2 tablets in the first 24 hours but still I am going crazy. I can't sleep, I can't eat, I feel dizzy and feel some abdominal discomfort.
I now know how stupid I were...I am not ready for sex and after this experience I don't want any man touching me not in a single way.
Please, someone, help me...
actually, i never believe the use of spermicides. if u read from my blog, u will notice that i have stated the pregnancy rate after one day is 0.4%. So, no need to worry much.
There is nothing much we can do now if u r belong to the 0.4% group.
Anyway, i think u will get through it. It is part of growing process.
Well, yes, it really is a part of growing process and sooner or later I would go through it...
It's a very big lesson to me.
By the way, I like your blog because it's very informative. I have red the whole text several times.
Ok, so I still have some fears...
After consulting with a gynecologist he assured me that the chances are very low because sex wasn't very traditional if u know what I mean.(Sorry for my openness...) And he even was surprised that I panicked so much and used those tablets. I know that they're not very healthy for a woman.
Anyway, thank you for your support. I really appreciate it.
Hey lms,
Im having a huge fear and i hope u can help me out.
I had my period on the 1st of june and i had unprotected sex on the 9th. i did not take postinor as my bf only precummed in me.
However, on the 23rd june i had intercourse with condom but i took two tablets of postinor right away just in case. its the sixth day after taking the pills now and my period stil hasnt come.
Pls help.. :( i've had some uncomfortable feelings in my stomach but i dont know if its cause of my worries or something else...What is the chance that i may be pregnant?
Your advice will be deeply appreciated.
hi lms,
I've been having a fear lately and i hope so much u can help me out by a word of advice.
i had my period on the 1st of june and i had unprotected sex on the 9th. i did not take postinor as my bf only precummed in me.
then on the 23rd i had sex with the use of a condom but i took postinor right away after that just in case. its the 6th day and me period stil hasnt come. i have been having an uneasy feeling in my stomach and i dont know if its cause of my fear of getting pregnant.
Pls help me out.. is there a high chance that i am pregnant? :(
hi, if u read my blog twice, u may find the answer to your second question.
"If u took the pills late into the cycle, your next menses will be prolonged." right?
actually i am more worried about your first encounter.
your period came on the 1st of june, and this make 9th june your fertile period and therefore u should take postinor or use condom!!
what has happen already happen, there is nothing much can be done.
check your urine with pregnancy tester from any pharmacy next week if your period hasn't come.
what happens if you take the two tablets of postinor 2 at the same time?
What happens if this happens more 3 times in one month?
I mistakenly took the 2 postinor 2 tablets are the same time? would it still be effective? And this happened 3 times this month. :(
Hi, my gf had her period on 6th of June. Then we had sex on 28th of June but unfortunately the condom slip off..
My gf took the 1st postinor after 12 hours and the other on another 12 hours. However, suppose her period will be coming today (4th July) but it is not..
Anything can i do now?
Pls advise... Thx!
the answers already in my article above lar....
i had sex on 17th july about 2am, then i ate postinor tommorow about 7pm, and 7am for the next tablet. Can i have sex(w condom) in the end of this month? will i pregnant? thx
msn me for details. i dont understand your question.
Sorry. I mean 3days ago, i just consumed postinor 2. I consumed the first table about 16 hour after sex, and 12 hour later for second tablet. is it enough if i just consumed 2 tablets? will it work to avoid pregnancy? and,
can i still have sex (use condom)? will i pregnant if i do that? ):
Sorry my English is not very fluent. thanks
I mean, have sex(use condom) but in the condition i just consumed postinor 2. hope you undstddddddd :(
i got 14 late...n i test the result was positive....will i take postior2 or....any other medecine
no, it wont be effective at all for abortion. pls see your dr for advise.
I had sex with my boyfriend at 4 am on Saturday morning.
At 10 a.m. i took the first postinor tablet.
Wound up making love again TWICE with my boyfriend between 12 and 3 p.m same Saturday.... unprotected and he came a lot in me.
Supposed to take 2nd tablet at 10 p.m.
what to do to avoid being pregnant?
take this 2nd tablet or a new 1st one from another new packet?
VERY anxious and scared!
My girlfriend took the tablet crushed because she thought it would be easier to take. I just read that its not supposed to be crushed :( . Will it will be totally ineffective now?
actually u should take 2 at the same time asap. not one at 10am and one at 10pm.
to be safe, u should take 2 tablet at once at 3.05pm after taking one tablet at 10am.
crushed the tablets? mm...should not be any prob if it is taken all. but try not to crush it.
Hi, i was unprotected sex with my bf on the fourth day of my period. I still got some blood that time. I took postinor 2 within 24 hours. the first pill on 12 pm, i supposed to take it again on 12 am, but then i fell asleep. so i took it around 3am. is it still effective? or is it better for me to take another dosage?
hi,i took postinor on July 5/6 and my period came on 12,then i had sex on 18 and took the pill on 19,a week later i had periods for 4days.I've not had my menses for this month.Kindly advice EM
hi.
i got my period on 3rd june. and i had sex wit my bf on 1th june( arnd 11pm). i took the frst pil the nest day arnd 10.15pm and da second arnd 10am da next day. i got bleedin after a wek of it (not like normal period. it was not heavy, somewhat spotty). i had a blood test da next day of my period n it was negative. now i havent got my periods for 2 months n its 21 of aug. i had a urine test at da beginin of dis month and it was negative. m havin sever stomach pain since da beginin of july.. my chest feels heavy every now and then. i feel vomitin.. m i pregnant? wt duz it mean?? pls reply me ASAP... m really in need of it..
hi,where can i get this pill?please help me!
where can i get this pill?please help me!
Hi,i had unprotected sex 11pm and another at 1pm the following day,i took the full dose of postinor2 next day at 8am,i think its about 33 hrs later from the first intercourse,will it be effective?am worried
plz ans me.. =(
hi, i have sex on one weekend..i took postinor 2 at once so fear of i toke it wrongly(supposed to take it separately), i took another dose..so 4 tablets already..next weekend, i have sex again..diz time i took 4 dose because i keep have sex and i thought have to take the pills every after sex..i knew now that im overdose..supposed that my period is today but i still did not get it..am i pregnant?
candid,
how r u going to be pregnant if u overdose on postinor? It will only spoiled your body hormone balance.
you never had to worry if u read carefully my blog and follow it exactly. NEVER TAKE 4 PILLS AGAIN.
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTION!!
Imbalance hormone can cauze many destructive effect to the body, may cause breast cancer, ovary cancer, etc.
Why dont u ask him to use condom if u r so worried? Postinor is not supposed to be taken like that. More for rape cases and broken condom etc.
hi thanks for ur time..im aware now the dangerous of overdose postinor.im feeling discomfort all over my body.im bit worried thou coz my period didnt came yet but i guess theres nothing i cud do now i juz have to be optimized and watever might happen i have juz to face it.
I had unprotected sex with my two weeks after my period and he ejaculated inside of me. approx. 17-18 hours after I took the pill. since it was my first time a few days before my expected period date i took a urine pregnancy test which came back negative but my period has not come as yet.
should I be worried ? also since I am first time user does the pill changes your cycle and I only took the two reccommended dosage
i have a question me and my girlfriend had unprotected sex and she used prostinor 2 15 hrs later. then we had unprotected sex again 2-4 days from time she used prostinor 2 but this time she didnt use it again because she didnt have it with her and now she is experiencing spottings of blood. is she pregnant or that prostinor worked really need help thanks
hi me and my girlfriend had unprotected sex 2 weeks after her period and i came inside her. she then took postinor 2 15hrs later and the second pill 12 hrs later like she was suppose to 2-4 days from the time she took those pills we had unprotected sex and i came inside her again but now she didnt use any since she didnt have it with her and we had sex again on second day and i came in her. now she is experiencing some drop of blood. did the medicine work or she is pregnant? she cant take preg test yet because its to early from what i believe since its only been 4 days. please need help
hi, i accidentally took the second pill after 20hours even though the maximum time limit is upto 16 hours, how will the effects change? will it not work?
hi, today i had unprotected intercourse and took the first tablet after that . However, within the 12 hour waiting period, we had an intercourse again and my husband ejaculated inside and I didn’t take the second tablet because it already finish. But then I took the second tablet around 12hours. Basically I only take 2 tablets in a day but I just ate 1 tablet when I have a sex and I do not ate the 2nd tablet if I do not sex with my husband within 12 hours. It’s means I just ate postinor 2 for 1 tablet only when I have a sex with my husband. May I know what the effect of my wrongful dosage is and whether it is effective?
Thank you.
actually nobody know how effective it would be if u dont follow the correct way..
i just can tell u that it will be better than not taking any..
take 2 at the same time. use condom after that.
What will happen if you only take one of the tablets instead of the two?
Hi,
I took 4 postinor pills this month, about a week apart. I took the last one a week ago. I am currently using as a daily contraception method NUVARING, the vaginal ring. And i took postinor because i have taken NUVARING out by mistake one week earlier. I took a week break and then inserted a new one. During the pause week, since i thought i was still protected, i had sex, but afterward i found out there was a risk of getting pregnant so i used postinor. On the first week of Nuvaring, since i had sex again, and apparently the contraception was supposed to work only starting the second week of using NUVARING, i took another postinor pill.
Since yesterday i am feeling very dizzy, horribly depressed, my ballance is higly affected. My mind and my body is slow. I am mildly panicked. Do you thing i am experiencing hormonal imbalance? And if so, what should i do?
hormone imbalance symptoms is normal although not everyone experience it. It is due to high hormone pills postinor which alters the hormonal balance.
there is nothing much u can do, maybe rest will help. it will get through after some time. maybe u need to think twice when u use postinor next time.
as i always said, postinor is not to be taken on frequent basis. only in emergency.
hai...
i just want to asked...
me n my bf have a vacation for 4 days and we are having sex mostly everyday and if he actually ejaculated inside everytime we having sex how do i take this tablets? do i take it everytime we done or how?
max 2 times. the rest use condom. or u want to consider 21 days pills.
I had sex 2 days after my period ended and the condom broke and he came inside of me. Since it was in my 'safe' zone, i never took postinor 2 immediately...however...3 days after sex, i felt a bit nauseous and was paranoid that i was pregnant so i got the tablet and took the first one on day four ...approx 90 hours after sex. Will it work? I am scared or could i get pregnant?
Does the long term effect of taking postinor-1 or postinor-2 will affect future pregnancy? Can the woman still be pregnant in the future without any consequences?
Dear pharmalogik, a few weeks ago I had unprotected sex, it during my ovulation period, within 20 minutes after intercourse I took 2 postinor 2 tablets at the same time, I did not wait for the 12 hours interval. I am now 1 week late into my period, could I be pregnant, please advice as I am so worried!
hi there..
my gf and i had sex on sat night and i'm not sure if i precum in her or not but i pulled out and i put on my condom and we had sex again.. after i came there was this white fluid from her vagina after i pulled out.. is there anything to be worried about?
and she only ate 1 tablet of postinor 2.. will it be effective enough?
precious, if u follow my instructions on how to take postinor, there is nothing to worry about.
anonymous, pls give yourself a nickname so i can give u answer easier.
very hard to said. postinor may affect future pregnancy.
Hi, my gf and i had sex on 18/11/09 and she took the postinor on 19/11/09. However she has not had her period yet after 13 days which is today at 2/12/09. Normally she will have the period roughly 10 days after the pill taken. So may I know if she is pregnant? What do I do? Is there a method that can abort abt 1 month pregnant??
hi there..
my gf and i had sex on sat night and i'm not sure if i precum in her or not but i pulled out and i put on my condom and we had sex again.. after i came there was this white fluid from her vagina after i pulled out..
the question that i wanna ask is that:
1)is there anything to be worried about? (the white fluid i mean)
2)and she only ate 1 tablet of postinor 2.. will it be effective enough?
Thanks...
hi dear pharmalogik:
im Minimo here,
me n my boy had intercourse around 4am this morning,he ejaculated inside n no protection,then i take 2pills of prostinor2 in same time at 11am. isit really can 96-99% avoid from pregnant rite?
i read your blog,but i jus wana double comfirm with this question in mind after he ejaculated inside.1st time ejaculated inside :( forcing by him.....
i will very apreciate for ur comfrimation with my question~ thx
regards,
Minimo
Hello there,
I went to the pharmacist today and they sold me Madonna instead of Postinor-2. They said its the same thing. I've googled and checked online and apparently it contains the same ingredients. I just want to double confirm since i've never heard of this drug before. It is manufactured in Thailand.
Thanks
Hi, it's me again..
I am a little paranoid although I've already taken the two pills earlier on today. Should I take another 1.5mg dose of levonogestrel before it is too late?
Please advise. thanks
Hi!! I have the same issue here which is my gf and i had unprotected sex on 18 November. She took postinor-2 on 19 November, however she has stomach pains after taking it but there was no bleeding. It is now 7 December after 18 days she took Postinor and no sign of her having period yet? So what do I do if its confirm she is pregnant? Any medication that I can use to abort an early preganancy?
HI
PLEASE HELP
I HAVE TAKEN POSTINOR 48 HOURS AGO AND TODAY I HAD UNPROTECTED SEX TWO TIMES WITHIN 3 HOURS.
i bought postinor 2 again and i dont know if i am aloud to take this pil because within 72 hours it comes to be the second time for postinor please answer me.
Or if the previous pils taken 48 hours ago are still effective to protect me from pregnancy even thou i had again sex two times = so all thsi is a question of 72 hours
just want to make things clear, if u dont have postinor or u r not sure about it, just use condom.
minimo, postinor supposed to be taken asap, although risky but i think it will still work.
lyn, yes. madonna is the same as postinor.
hi, there is no studies to prove that. but i guess it will still work. never try like this again. risky.
SIR.Would like to ask after taken postinor 2 from 10 days before then we have sex again after 10 days but this time wear condom will it pregnant? because now have late 2 day still no period yet make me worry.
hi,
i had sex with my girlfriend 2 days ago. so, is that late to have postinor 2 ?
cy, should be ok. no worry.
anonymous, pls read my blog content again. the answer is already written.
TQ sir reply. as you told me is should ok but if right now around 4 days still no period yet so basically it will delay how many days and now only come leukorrhea. because normaly is correct time but now not.
hi, my gf had taken 2 dose of postinor. One was 19/11/2009 and the other was 16/12/09 and to date, still no period yet. We had sex on 17/11 and 18/11. Thus is there a possibility of pregnancy? And if yes, what meds can take to abort an early pregnancy. Thanks and I need help on the matter.
hi there. i had sex with my boyfriend yesterday and he doesnt cum but to prevent pregnancy he bought me 2 tablets of postinor 2. What if after i consume 1st tablet i vomit within 1/2 hours? what should i do? should i take the vomitted pill or straight away take the 2nd tablet? fyi i have only 2 tablets. please reply asap. thanks.
Hi there. I had sex with my partner yesterday but he doesnt cum. to prevent pregnancy he bought me 2 tablets of postinor 2 today. What if after i take the 1st tablet, i vomit within 1/ 2 hours, what should i do? should i take the vomitted one or just take the 2nd tablet? for your information i have only 2 tablets. pls reply asap. thank you so much
Hello sir. I would like to ask you what will happen after take postinor 2? Will menstruation coming? If yes, how many days later? I do not undergo any side effects after taking these pills. I feel weird. D: And I'm the first user of these pills.
good day,
i want ur response asap... i took the tablets two at once... and immediately as in 24hrs.. i started bleeding oh.... wat shld i do.. and my next period is suppose to be on the 5th of jan...
what is the estimated effectiveness of the postinor 2 if the second tablet is taken 18hrs after the first(which was taken 10hrs after intercourse)?
Appreciate ur response on the below as the pharmacist were not able to answer..
I had taken the 1st dose of postinor2 after 10hours of unprotected sex (@10am) and the 2nd dose as advise after 12 hours(10pm). However, my husband ejaculate inside during the intercourse at 2am (5hours after 2nd dose) and I have taken another new dose of postinor2 in the morning at 10am. I assumed I should take the following dose after 12 hours as well.
In this situation, does the postinor is effective & what are the side effects for it? Thanks!
not everyone will experience side effect, u will know if u experience any.
postinor will still be effective. you r welcome.
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why is it many people dont follow the right way to take postinor? pls read my blog post. postinor is meant for emergency contraceptive, not on regular basis. eg. rape victims, broken condoms etc.
stressed out.
if in the previous cycle my period started on the 24th and ended on about the 30th november, and i took postinor 2 as directed about 44 hours after intercourse which occured on 14th dec, will this affect the nextnext cycle?
my dec period came on 23rd ,2 days early, and was pretty heavy, ended on 28th dec.. on 7th jan i had light pink dischagre and then brown discharge the day after. is this normal?
I'm just curious,Is there any long term effect of taking the pills (Lets say... 5 times within a year)? Will it have any effects to my future baby? Any disfunctional body parts,internally or externally?
Thanx so much for your advice.my worry is that there a lot counterfeit drugs out there how does one spot a fake postinor-2 tablet or package.your advice will be highly appreciated
buy it from pharmacist in a pharmacy
hi.
i had sex 3rd n 4th jan without protection and after the sex on 4th,i took the pills 36 hours or so after sex and the second one after 12 hours of the 1st pill.i still havent gotten my period sinc my last time was 17th December.and i always start bleeding 4 days or so after taking the pills. whats wrong?
my gf consumed postinor 2 on 16th January, but till today 23rd January, she has not bleed. Must she bleed after consuming the pills? Worried guy here. Please advice
i wanna ask about if i take the first tab at 2.30pm n then i must eat the second tab at 2.30am but i forgot to eat the second tab at tat time,i fall asleep n i wake up was 6am,i eat the second tab at tat time,will the postinor still got effect on preventing pregnent ?
My friend took noth of the pills at the same time... is the pill still effective...what the consequences??pls repli as soon as possible
hi, i took the 1st tablet 70 hours after, then the 2nd tablet 12 hours later. I didnt have any side affects at all, like i didnt take anything in the first place. Is this normal? Im worried if its not working?
mr x, if u follow my instruction on how to take, why u need to worry?
pls refer to my post.tq
i took the second dosage of postinor 2 to early.....5 hrs after the first...would that affect it from workin?
hey i had sex with my bf on monday and i took postinor on wednesday. followed instructions by taking the second pill 12 hours later. i havent got my period yet but on sunday i had sex with my bf again and he ejaculated inside me. is there a high possibility that i'd get pregnant from this? and y am i not having my period yet?
hi I have taken 4 pills for the mth...my period came however it was irregular but lasted 7days. However my second period is due and I am scared because it is not coming. I took a pregnancy test two weeks before this period and it was negative. Why isn't my period coming?
hello.. i have read thru all d post in ur blog,, but yet i still come up with a question?
after taking d MAP within 48 hours of unprotected sex, we then had another unprotected sex say 2 hours later of taking the pills(took 2 at once). should she still take another set of pill as this is d morning after,, or will d pilss she took earlier still work for d 2 hours unprotected sex we had later..
also this was d second set of MAP taking this month.. thanks.. i await ur reply asap.. jamms
jamms, u should have use condom on the second time.
it is very hard for me to say whether the previous dose will still work or not. there r no studies yet.
Hello I had sex with my patner 16 days before during my periods(mostly last day of bleeding) and took the postino 2 in two hours after the intercourse and other tablet in 12 hours and fewdays after I experianced bleeding then it stopped now I'm having increase sleepyness and nausea some times (16 days after the tablet) is this due to side effect? can side effect last for 16 days? please help me..... (I'm worring weather I'm pregnent can pregnecy symptom come this much earlier I did urine hcg test in 14 days it was negative)
hi there..juz quiry on d accuracy of the pills.
i've taken d pills on the next day after had unprotected sex (its within 72 hours as per been advised by d pharmacist)..but after 3 weeks i missed my period...try to use pregnancy test n the result was POSITIVE..i immediately took another postinor few days after d test and now waiting for the next outcome..
Plz advise me does it work that way? do my period will come up? how long i have to wait to see the result? any possibility that it will turned into NEGATIVE result?
misn, if u r pregnant, postinor wont work. your period wont come.postinor is not abortion pills.
Hello, I took pstino 2 before 17 days on my last day of menstruation after a unprotected sex I took them in the correct order now I have increase sleepyness and had nausia before 2days is this due to side effect of the tablet? can side effect last for 17 days?
shasa said...
can we use this postinor if we didnt comfirm iether we pragnent or not..
coz when i have sex with him, he didn't comfirm either ejaculated inside or not. is there any effect??
Dear Mr. Lee,
I had unprotected intercourse 27 may, I took 1 table one hour after. And the second 10 hours later. I should notice that I had my mensses finished a week before. In a week the menses started again. After that they finished. Pregnancy test was negative. But the problem is that now is 17 June I still have some bloodings:(
May be postinor influenced in a strange way?
I kindly ask you to assist and give advanced!
Thank you in advance.
Dear Mr. Lee,
I had unprotected intercourse 27 may, I took 1 table one hour after. And the second 10 hours later. I should notice that I had my mensses finished a week before. In a week the menses started again. After that they finished. Pregnancy test was negative. But the problem is that now is 17 June I still have some bloodings:(
May be postinor influenced in a strange way?
I kindly ask you to assist and give advanced!
Thank you in advance.
my couple was eat the first pill before we get the unprotected sex. then she eat the second pill after 12 hour.. do the postinor effective to avoid pregnancy?
hi is it safe to take postinor 2 more than 3 times per month? does this tablet cause infertility if taken too often?
Hi
I had sex last Wednesday At 4:30pm and I took both postinor 2 tablets together the next day at 1:30pm. Is the pill going to be effective? My period had already been a week late and I'm freaking out!! I have even taken the combined pill about 3-5 times in addition just to feel safe but am still worried. Am I at a high or low risk of getting pregnant?
i had sex on 1/7 night,took postinor 2 on 2/7 morning,but i missed postinor 2 second dose in 12 hours,n i had second dose on 3/7..n i wait for 3 days ago period never come so i took another 2 boxexs of postinor 2...wil i getting pregnant?
i had sex on 1/7 night,i took postinor 2 on 2/7 morning,but i missed postinor second dose in 12 hours,n i took second dose on 3/7 morning,waitng for 3 days ago period didnt come,n i hav took another 2 boxexs of postinor 2,wil i pregnant?
i had sex on 1/7 night,i took postinor 2 on 2/7 morning,but i missed postinor second dose in 12 hours,n i took second dose on 3/7 morning,waiting for 3 days ago period didnt come,n i hav took another 2 boxexs of postinor 2,wil i pregnant
i took the first pill 66hours after and the second one 12hours after the first one. the problem is there is a chance that there was no insemination because he came whilst he was trying to break my virginity but did not succeed. are there any serious side effects if nothing really happened?
hi, i took postinor 2 after 3 days of unprotected sex, den took d other tab 22hrs later. how effective wld this drug work on me?
chikz here,
Helloo please help,we had unprotected sex on AUG 1,2010 3am i take 1 tab of postinor2 by by AUG 3 3PM and take 1tab after 6 hours it was 9pm its been 4 days but i havent got my period but i experience abdominal pain,crumps and back pain.PLEASE ADVISE
AWAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSE.THANKS
Lumber here
i want to ask that if took 4 tablets of postinor 2, the period will be prolonged? because now already is the 7th day after took postinor2. And when can only take the urine test?
kindly hope for u reply asap..thx.
hi, i had unprotected sex and five days later i took a 2 tabs of postinor2 and 12hrs later, i took another 2 tabs of postinor2. i saw some spotting afterwards,if im pregnant, can i still have a normal pregnancy and a normal healthy baby,also how can this affect my health?
hi,i feel like im pregnant and i took a htp 12 days after sex which tested negagtive but i still feel pregnant, ve i done the htp too soon and wen is the best time to do this?
Hi,I took the postinor 2 pills after havong sex (during my ovulation time)and exactly a week after which is supposed to be around the time my period starts,I start bleeding.but it seems like am spotting.but am feeling the usual menstrual pains.this happened when I took it in the past.why do I spot a week after taking it?what does this mean?would my period come after spotting?cos this has happend before
hey my name is Kim
i my period ending on thursday, me and my bf had sex last nite which was sunday and the condom brust. so i took bout piells today monday at about 2 o'clock. then i vomit within minutes of takin the pills. should i take another dose? asp
hi,
i took the 2 pills at the same time 12 hours after unprotected sex. after doin so i vomited mins after the in take. should i take another 2 tabs as soon asp.
thz
mesh
I had unprotected sex and i took postinor 2 tablets 4 hours after. i took both pills at the same time (single dose). My period came on schedule, but i had some unusual cramps on the last day of my period. What are my chances of being pregnant?
hi,
i took this drug a day after i had sex with ma boyfriend.then i took it again two days later.and then we had unprotected sex again.can i take again and will i get pregnant if i dont take it?
hi people.....i have been using postinor2 as emergency contraceptives of an average of 3 months once for 4years now and it works accurately.....if u have period irregularities its probably u are not eating right and taking postinor2 juz aggravate d situation.....ladies pls eat well and make sure your menses cycle is regular tat u wil know wen u are ovulating and take precautions if u dont want to get pregnant.....postinor2 will not work (1)if u have hormone imbalance, (2)if u r a crystal meth user, (3)if u had taken antibiotics like flucanozole and as such. Pls ead the labels and tablet contradiction on d leaflet. To all ladies who are sexually active pls consider the use of The Pill(monthly dosage)ask your nearest pharmacist wats best for you.....its effective, safe n easy.
think about it.....love ur body before u make love
hi>>i and my fiance made love and then i took the postinoir 2 tablet at about 8pm and the second at about 8am just like it was written that it should be 12 hrs..2 days after we made love again and we wrent protected so i had to take the tablets again>>i have a very regular period bt this time i fear that i took the drug too close and for the first time my period is 7days late although i took the tablets when i was getting close to seeing my period..do u think i am pregnant?thanks
after 12 days of menstruation i had unprotected sex at a2:30 pm and i took postinor2 first one at 1pm and took another tablet at 12:45 and he didn't ejaculated inside. expected date of mens will 11 October. is there any possibility to be pregnant? plz help me out
Hi
this is LK, thnx so much for your continuous response to all comments and questions.
As for me I know I definately highly overdosed on postinor, it's been two months since I've been taking it and I did not respect the directions at all.
But having said that, the last time I took 2 pills was the 10th of October, and I spotted blood yesterday(October 14) and today (October 15), like a very light menstration? How long is this blood spotting going to last? I hate it.
Please let me know, cause it's kind of scary too.
Hi
this is LK, thnx so much for your continuous response to all comments and questions.
As for me I know I definately highly overdosed on postinor, it's been two months since I've been taking it and I did not respect the directions at all.
But having said that, the last time I took 2 pills was the 10th of October, and I spotted blood yesterday(October 14) and today (October 15), like a very light menstration? How long is this blood spotting going to last? I hate it.
Please let me know, cause it's kind of scary too.
i took the pill after an unprotected sex with partner and few days later still had another and discovered i was bleeding due to my period. i went ahead to take another pill of postinor2 less than 24hours later and since then my menses has not flowed again. do you think i am pregnant.
I have had a unprotected sex just after the period and I took Postinor 2 and the there has been lot of bleeding after two days.. but thing I am worried about is- the area around my nipple became black and the skin became dry and worn.
Can you please tell me what can I do about it???
I had a unprotected sexual intercourse just now. and i immediately took postinor2 after 1-2 hours. After i took the postinor2 i have a bleeding after around 1 hours, why is this happening? is this normal?
this is lavendar here... I took postinor2 right after 1 hour of the unprotected sexual intercourse... and another hour later i had an immediate bleeding, why is this happening? is this normal? my menstrual should be 2 weeks later...
Had noticed some blood came out from the vagina after 3 days of taking the pills..Is this one of the side effects?
I have taken postinor 2 fews time before. I ate eat according to the instruction. The last time i ate was on 10/11. i also ate the postinor2 on 9/11. then my period late for 4 days(suppose i have my period on 14/11). so i bleed for 3 days, then the menses dissappear. i thought it was over. but today i bleed again. so, what does it means? is that the effect of taking postinor2??
I had my first intercourse ever on December 1st, and it is during my period, around the 5th day*(i usually have a week long period), then i took the first pill the next day, on the 2nd of December around 4pm, and i mistakenly saw it 24 instead of 12, for the second pill, and i just took it now, on the 3rd of december 11.30pm.
I am worried, am i going to get pregnant even still like that?
quick response please. very helpful
Hi..I m Rang.. I had sex with my gf and she took the 1st tablet of postinor-2 30 minutes after intercourse. After the 1st dose..we had another 3 times of unprotected sex after the 1st dose.. After 12 hours then she took the 2nd dose of postinor-2..
Will the 3 times unprotected sex after the 1st dose affect the postinor-2 effectiveness??
hi, i had unprotected sex(he only pre-cummed) about 5 days after my period. yes, the fertile period. sigh. i took the pills around 36/less hours after that. and im going to take it 12 hrs later. what are the chances that i get pregnant? :(
I had unprotected sex close to my suspected ovulation and took the 2 dose of postinor2 together 6hrs later. After another 24hrs I had unprotected sex again. Will the postinor still be affective or I should just use another
it is about postinor.. i want to ask about Nordette pills.. i know it is the same as postinor which is act as contraceptive pills.. i used to eat postinor after having unprotected sex.. but yesterday i went to the pharmacy and the pharmacist gave me the Nordette..
according to the internet, Nordette should be taken averyday for 21 days.
but according to the pharmacist, i have to consume 2pills after intercourse and another 2pills after 12hours..
i want the confirmation from Pharmalogik's Pharmacist..
which steps is correct..
I had sex and my bf ejaculated in me i took the pill about 8 hours after he did that then the other 12 hours exactly after that...... 5 days later i had spotting for like 3-4 days and now i am 4 days late with my period.. the thing is i had just finished my period when he ejaculated in me... should i be worried i am late or is it that the pill messed up my cycle
berry
dear sir i had unprotrcted sex with my fionce and he ejaculated in me about 8:30 last night i took one postinor today at 2:50 when should i take the other to make it more effective or now that its 5:49 can i take the final postinor 2?
Can postinol affect the womb and stop som1 from getting pregnant in future. i.e when i am ready. What damages can it do to the womb. I realy want 2knowTnx
IF WE PUT THE CUM INSIDE, DOES IT WORK OR I SHOULD DO SOMETHING ELSE????
if we put cum inside ,does it work yet?
cn the pill effect me in any aspect?
btw..im a breastfeed mother
Hi Sir, i wanna ask about taking postinor2.
i have unprotected sex on 9th january (morning-3.00 am and 11am).
i take first pill right after the first sex that is 3.00 am and take the second pill at 3.00 pm.
but i feel very worried and i take the thrid pill on 3.00pm the next day.
my last period is 14november and 18disember.
im so worried sir? did i have the potential to get pregnant?
please help me sir. what should i do right now..??
hi am 22years of age n its being a day since i have had unprotected sex.and i 4got to take the pill.am in doha right now n am only gna be back home the day after.is it ok if i take it then because postinor2 is not available in doha.by the time i get back from doha it'll be jus after 3 days.for 2mo night it will be 3days, where as i will be landing in my home country on the day after morning, could u please advise me..if it is ok?if i'll be ok?
Hey pharmalogik,
May i ask,what if my gf immediately vomiting after taking the pills,should she takes another 2 at once (as suggested)?
Or should I asked her to wait for roundabout 6 to 8 hours cycle?
Thank you.
Hi I used the first prostinor tablet after two days of intercourse, my bf ejaculated in me within the 12 hour waiting period, will the tablet still work if I take it at the time I am supposed to take the second tablet or should I take a new dosage??? Help!!!
hi there,
i took one tablet of postinor after 10 hours after having sex and another tablet after 12 hours,can you tell how many percent of not getting pregnant?
technically after we took prostinor-2 we will go through bleeding? if its bleeding it means we're not pregnant arent we?
technically after consuming prostinor-2, we will go through bleeding if im not mistaken? I just want to reconfirm. If we're bleeding it means we're not pregnant arent we?
techinically after consuming those pills, we will bleed within a week? I mean we HAVE to bleed after taking those pills to avoid getting pregnant is that right? I just wanna reconfirm thanks. Only if we didnt bleed within the one week can we consume another pills just to avoid it?
me nd my boyfriend had unprotected sex and i used 2 tablets of postinor and after one hour, we had unprotected sex again..will the postinor still be effective? i'm actually experiencing menstrual bleeding rite now and i took the tablet last week monday
HI I need ur advice here,
I took a tablet of postinor2 1 hour after ejaculation and another tablet after 3 hours, will it work? I haven't experience any bleeding yet which worries me now.. Pls reply, thx
Veena here.
something must be wrong with me but anyway i had unprotected sex on wednesday night took postinor on thursday at around midnight then had unprotected sex again on friday night so is it still effective or should i take another dose of postinor but this would be my 3rd time taking the dose in one cycle
Hello. On wednesday 23rd i had unprotected intercourse wit a girl but i was jus for a few seconds. Nothing came out of me. On the friday after, just for safety she took two postinor 2 pills at once. Is she pregnant, is anythin wrrong for taking two pills at once in dat time difference(approximate time taken after intercourse is 52hours). Please help. asap.
hi my name is amala,
i had sex wit my husband earlier this week and took postinor 3days later i had sex again n took the pills..Again it happened unexpectedly yesterday n my husband just bought me postinor again.pls am so scared n don't know what to do,should i take it? i don't want to get pregnant..
its chichi, my bf and i had sex using condom,but it got burst,and some poured inside me but i took just one tablet out of d postinor2...pls tell me if am safe or nt a.s.a.p?
Hi, I'd like to ask, if postinor 2 delays ovulation, does it mean your next period would be late too? And what are the chances of pregnancy if you've bled 5 days after consuming postinor 2? Is there even a chance at all? Since bleeding means the uterine lining is expelled, and thus the ovum has no where to implant itself..
Hi,
Me and my fiance had sex on the time that i was fertile period. My fiancee did not cum inside me but maybe precum. took postinor 2 within 24 hours the next day and the 2nd tablet 12 hours later.took it correctly. after a week, i should having period but this is the 10th day still no period.
any chance maybe i am pregnant?
plz reply ASAP.. tq for the advice...
gal96
Hi, i am kaycee. I had unprotected sex with my bf 4 d 1st tym bt we are nt sure if hd came inside me so i took a pill of postinor 2 nd 12 hrs l8a, i took d 2nd pill bt I feel dizzy nd slow...i guess 'm scared. Pls is their anythin' 2 worry about.
Hey there, sir.
Ive had an unprotected sex on the 9th march.
I took the postinor the correct way (first tablet: within 72 hrs and 12 hours for the next one)
a week after it starts to bleed like normal period and its been going for a week now until today.
Is this normal?
Hi I had sex for on the 5th day of my menses.the condom broke and I took the pills. My menses stopped and then come again almost a week later. Is it normal?
is there any long term side effect after taking the pills?
like difficulty to conceive baby in future?
erm..hello..
im amy here..i wana ask u bout consumption on postinor 2..i had sex (with condom but it slipped) on 15th n i took postinor 2 on the nex day..then i had sex on 19th agn but dis time without condom and i took postinor 2 agn..unfortunately, we had unprotected sex on the 21st n 22nd agn without safety measures and these are accidents i can say..i kno i shdnt take prostinor agn as it wil be overdosed..so wat shd i do to prevent pregnancy? p/s:we may be silly but we js cant stop each other fr making love..pls help!but he did not come into me wen he ejaculated everytime we had sex..
Hi there,
My name is Banku! i had sex with my GF(on sunday/monday night) and i was careful not to come inside of her. she is sure she is in her safe period since she just finished her period on sunday. she took prostinor2 12noon on tuesday and over slept off delaying fours hours later instead of taking it in the early hours(12:10am) of wednesday(though she took it at about 4:49am). do you think the drug will be effective? do you think we should take another? must we do a pregnancy test and how long do you advice we wait?
its our first time of having sex and using any type of EC drug
please advice
Hi I had unprotected sex on April 1st 2011 around 3-5 pm, and he took it out in time, hence he didn't cum inside me i supposed, On April 3rd around 4-5 pm i took Postinor-2 first pill, and then 2nd pill after 10 hours, I am supposed to get my menses on 7th April, but today is the day and i still haven't gotten my menses. Do you think I am safe from pregnancy?
Hello,
So I had unprotected sex on the 1st day of my period and my boyfriend ejaculate in me thinking that it would be okay. But the next day I didn't bleed. My period stopped completely. And I'm thinking of taking postinor instead but am afraid it will delay my period again as I'm already paranoid about being pregnant. So what do you suggest? Should I just take it? Or wait until my period is normal?
hi, i had sex with my girlfriend on saturday morning at about 4 to 5 am, and she took the first tablet of postinor at about 9am on sunday morning and the second tablet by past 9pm in the evening. did she take it properly? pls advice me
is it ok to consumed the pills after 5days of sexual intercourse? will it be any chances of getting pregnant? how many % of the rate to get pregnant if the pills to be consumed after 5days of sexual intercourse?
i have sex about two weeks ago..which is around 31st last month and today is 15th of April..and only now im about to consume this postinor2..what i've been wondering is..my period cycle is not fixed every month..it will come out between 15th to 20th every month..so im wondering do i have to wait until i got period or just consume it anyway n wait for result..tq
my girlfriend took postinor 2 an hour after we had sex, it disturbed her cycle, and now 2-3 weeks later her nipples are tender are these the effects of the drug??
hello, thanks for the information really helpful.
well, i've been consuming postinor2 for a yr now. but i overlook the dosage limit to be taken. i had intercourse with my boyfriend last week and i took the tablet but i took 3 box (6 tblets)... i know2 its wrong but to late to undo anyway...
my question is that, if ejaculation occur in the body after the 2nd tablet is there any chances for me to get pregnant, pharmalogik?
for those still asking about the elapse of time to take the pills. i'll make it brief:
taking morning after pills is best to consume below 72 hours. if the later you take the higher % to get Prego.(YOU GET THAT?) and then i would suggest taking the 2nd pill not more than 16 hrs.
the pills ARE TO BE TAKEN AFTER INTERCOURSE not before! it is written there emergency pills.
the result may be the delay of time of your menstrual (or your period will come om predicted date)if it is later than 7 day then do perform a pregnancy test.
the effect of bleeding or spotting DIFFERS to the FEMALE"S BODY itself. some yes and some don't.The effect DOES NOT comes IMMEDIATELY.
i hope that is clear enough... and hope they are use full enough.
PHARMALOGIK, thanks for your topic really help alot. hope my question is not that complicated
XO,
Esther
hi, i had sex on the ovulation day, day 14 and i took postinor 2 after an hour. then my bf and i did again and i took another 2 tablets within 12 hours. will i be pregnant?
can u suggest another medicine....for exmple for weekly dose or daily dose...coz this drug only can take if emergency...n only 4tab/month....what will happen if i always take it 4tab/month...what the severe side effect will happen...difficult to pregnant???? i hope not...
i took postinor 2 4times this month can i take again, this is how i took it i took 1 b4 taken the other after 12hours then took another 1 after unprotected sex a day after taking the drug then took the one after 12hours that means i have taking 4times that very week i have sex again the next day morning will i be pregnant or shd i take another drug am scared or will the previous drug taken that evening be still effective
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